Late last year Operation Awesome asked YOU, our readers, for your most
burning revision questions that you'd like to ask our panel of agents.
We'll be posting them throughout the New Year's Revisions Conference,
but first here's a little more about our awesome panel of agents.
The Agents
Laura Bradford established the Bradford Literary Agency in 2001. She
considers herself an editorial-focused agent and takes a hands-on
approach to developing proposals and manuscripts with her authors for
the most appropriate markets. During her own misadventures as a writer,
Laura came to understand the importance of having a friendly but
critical eye on your side, a career strategist in your corner and a
guide who can lead you through the travails of publication.
She continues to actively build her client list and is
currently seeking work in the following genres: Romance (historical,
romantic suspense, paranormal, category, contemporary, erotic), urban
fantasy, women’s fiction, mystery, thrillers and young adult as well as
some select non-fiction.

Josh Getzler is an agent and founder of HSG Agency. He left Harcourt in 1993 to get an MBA from Columbia Business
School. After Business School, Josh spent 11 years owning and operating a
minor league baseball team (the Staten Island Yankees). He left
baseball in late 2006 and rejoined the book world on the agent side.
Josh worked at Writers House until November 2009, building a list of
novelists, YA and children’s book authors, and the occasional nonfiction
writer; then joined Russell and Volkening. Josh represents fiction and nonfiction (mostly fiction, much of which
is crime-related (mystery, thriller, creepy…)), adult and
YA/middle-grade books (though not picture books). And please don’t
send religious fiction. He is particularly into foreign and historical
thrillers and mysteries, so send your ruthless doges and impious
cardinals…and your farmhouse cozies!
Erin Harris is a literary agent at Folio Literary Management. She represents literary
fiction, book club fiction, contemporary YA, and select narrative non-fiction
titles. Some of her clients include: Times Magazine contributor and
former Newsweek correspondent Carla Power, Executive Editor of The
New Criterion David Yezzi, and the novelists Bryan Furuness and Jennifer
Laam. Erin began her career in publishing in 2008 and has worked for both
William Clark of WM Clark Associates and Irene Skolnick of the Irene Skolnick
Literary Agency. She received her MFA in Creative Writing from the New School
and her BA in literature from Trinity College (Hartford, CT).
Natalie Lakosil is an agent and Laura’s assistant at the Bradford Literary
Agency. An honors graduate of the University of San Diego, California,
Natalie holds a B.A. in Literature/Writing. After nearly four years at
the Sandra Dijkstra Literary Agency and a brief dabble in writing author
profiles and book reviews for the San Diego Union Tribune, Natalie
joined the Bradford Agency in February of 2011. Natalie is drawn to talented, hard-working new authors with a fresh,
unique voice and hook. Her specialty is commercial fiction, with an
emphasis in children’s literature (from picture book-teen), romance
(contemporary, paranormal and historical), upmarket women’s fiction and
select nonfiction. Her interests include historical, multi-cultural,
paranormal, sci-fi/fantasy, gritty, thrilling and darker contemporary
novels, middle grade with heart, and short, quirky picture books.
Victoria Marini is
an associate literary agent with the Gelfman Schneider Literary
Agency,and
an assistant to Jane Gelfman, Deborah Schneider, and
Heather Mitchell. She began taking on clients in 2010 and is actively
building her list. She's looking for adult literary fiction, commercial
fiction, and women's fiction, plus YA (especially literary,
contemporary, heartwarming and funny, or dark, edgy, and commercial),
Middle Grade (fantasy and coming-of-age humorous), and nonfiction
(narrative non-fiction,
humorous/pop-culture non-fiction, and memoir, as well lifestyle/how-to
non-fiction).
Kathleen Rushall is an agent at Marsal Lyon. She started as an intern at the Sandra Dijkstra Agency,
and then spent almost two years at Waterside Productions. Kathleen looks
forward to garnering fresh voices, strong narratives, and whimsical
tales in all areas of young adult literature including contemporary
fiction, suspense, Southern gothic, historical fiction, and science
fiction. She is open to all genres of YA, but has a soft spot for
thrillers, horror, romance, laugh-out-loud voices, and would love to
find a dark mystery. She’s also open to New Adult queries. Kathleen is
looking for funny, character-driven, quirky picture books and all genres
of big voiced middle grade fiction. Kathleen also represents select nonfiction and is interested in
parenting, cooking, crafts, business, alternative medicine, women’s
interest, humor, pop-culture, and some how-to.
The Q&A Part One: Revisions
What is the most consistent change you ask for in a revise & resubmit?
Laura Bradford: I am not sure there
is really a ton of consistency when it comes to R&R requests I make. I
suppose I might most commonly request plot changes of some kind. If the writing
is clumsy or the voice doesn’t work I am liable to just pass on a ms rather
than request a revision. Plot tends to be something that can be fixable. I have
asked authors to make genre-related changes… like in a contemporary romance
with suspense elements I might suggest that it might sell better without the
suspense elements. Or in a romance-mystery mashup I might suggest emphasizing
the romance more so editors would better see where it might logically be
shelved in stores. I could suggest that an ending might need to be
reconceptualized. I could suggest adding or dropping a secondary storyline
because the story was either too busy or not busy enough. I might suggest that
a ms submitted as a single-title romance be better suited as a category romance
and to make changes accordingly.
Josh Getzler: For children's books, it's making the age correct. I find myself moving
ages up and down a year or two in order to make the character, plot
points, and tone all be believable. For adult books, the revisions are
much more varied, but usually involve cutting. In crime, it's often
ratcheting up the pace.
Natalie Lakosil: Plot arc/context issues. I won’t offer a R&R if the voice/writing
isn’t grabbing me, so it’s always going to be if I see enough promise
and potential in the story but I want to be sure the author can tackle
the changes/make it happen.
Victoria Marini: I don’t know that there is one. The kinds of consistent problems I have
with manuscripts: pacing, flat characters, inert openings, endings that
crumble apart… I don’t generally ask for an R&R on those. Were I
forced to pick-on, I tend to ask for revisions that create more delayed
gratification regarding the “big reveal” of a secret or a surprise.
Erin Harris: Again, it is difficult to generalize, because every manuscript is
exceedingly different, but I will say that I am always hyper-critical of
the first 10 pages.
These are the pages that convince a reader to buy your book in a
bookstore or online. These are the pages that convince an editor to
invest time in your work. They are akin to the handshake at the
beginning of a job interview. You only get one chance to make a first
impression.
Kathleen Rushall: Usually when I ask for a revise and resubmit, it’s because I saw
something I really liked but that may have gotten lost in the current
delivery of the story. Often, my R&R will have to do with pulling
out the parts I found most promising, and streamlining the rest of the
manuscript to help that element shine.
Post-Nano, what do you suggest as a starting point for that first round of revision?
Laura Bradford: I think it depends on the writer. Some authors write lean and in
revision go back and fill in details and color. Some authors write long
and have to go through in revision and streamline. Writers should have a
sense of their strengths and weaknesses. Every author should have beta
readers or critique partners…they will certainly help an author see what
their strengths and weaknesses are if they are unaware of them. And
choose beta readers and crit partners wisely. Some may be great at
checking for continuity but terrible at spotting typos and bad grammar.
Get a few reads on your work from people who can point out big picture
concerns (like a lack of momentum or an unlikable hero) and smaller
details (use of the wrong there/their/they’re). Set a reasonable
deadline for yourself to get your revisions completed.
Josh Getzler: Read your manuscript as a reader, and have someone other than a close
friend or family member read it as well. Are you interested? Is it
compelling? Are there places where it looks like you were writing just
to get your word count done? The first go-through after Nano is usually
pretty big. It's the real question Do I have a book here, or an
exercise? Is it a real story that people will spend money to read?
Erin Harris: Take another look at your opening pages, writers. Do they establish the
Who, What, Where, When, and Why of your novel? Do they set the plot in
motion immediately by introducing a conflict? Do they create tension by
revealing what is at stake for the protagonist? The opening pages must
do all of these things – and in arresting prose. It’s a tall order.
Natalie Lakosil: Nothing. Don’t touch it for two weeks. Then re-read it and see if it all makes sense.
Victoria Marini: Leave the book alone for a while. If you don’t start – wherever that may
be for you – with a set of fresh eyes, it will all be for naught.
Kathleen Rushall: My first piece of advice would be to set it aside for awhile. You just
wrote at full throttle to produce this story in a crunch. Now it’s time
to ruminate on it.
Take a step back and consider it. During your revision break, you
should continue to read books within the genre you’re writing. Know
what’s currently working and any expected conventions. Question your
characters: does the reader care enough about them? Do they have real
goals? Are their motivations clear? Is their personality shown through
action? How is the voice?
As you consider fleshing out your characters, also think on your plot
and how this serves to do that (two birds here). You want your
characters to develop organically with the plot. Is your plot arc
complete and it’s now a matter of bolstering it? Or did you finish your
draft before the story really ended? Use your resources at hand. As you
begin mulling all this over, send your draft to beta readers and
critique partners. While you consider your next move, have others dive
in and offer feedback.
What is the most common revision request you make for a picture book manuscript?
Natalie Lakosil: Cuts. A lot of picture books are longer than they need to be. Otherwise, narrative arc.
Victoria Marini: I don’t take-on picture books unless they are by clients I already have,
and in that case, I ask that they think about how the illustration will
tell 50% of the story; what will the illustrations show us that the
text does not?
Kathleen Rushall: I see a lot of picture books that I think have a promising story or
loveable character, but that are either too long (word length) or too
complicated. My most common picture book R&Rs involve cutting
extraneous bits and guiding the writer to get to the heart of the story.
Is there such a thing as a writer changing too much during a requested revision?
Laura Bradford: Sure.
Josh Getzler: Sure, but it doesn’t happen too often.
Natalie Lakosil: Yes. Unfortunately, sometimes a writer can revise to a point that the
manuscript loses its original magic. It’s a hard balance, so I’d
definitely be sure to keep in mind what the agent/editor LIKED about the
original, too, when revising!
Victoria Marini: Yes. But it’s not so much about the changes as about the voice. I
haven’t seen an author make too many changes, yet. But, I have seen
authors polish and polish and polish the heart and guts right out of the
story.
Erin Harris: Yes, I do think it’s possible to throw the baby out with the bath water. However, I don’t think this happens very often…
Many writers have an easier time revising voice, setting, and
plot, but they struggle with theme. One concern is to not let it beat
readers over the head. How do you suggest writers revise for theme in
order to make it as seamless as everything else?
Laura Bradford: I am pretty sure I have never in all my agenting days asked an author to
revise for theme. I have no idea how to even answer this question.
Josh Getzler: Ultimately, as trite as it seems, show don’t tell, and don’t preach. An
interesting story with a bright voice will allow you to get your points
across without it feeling like medicine.
Erin Harris: A book is an ecosystem in which all of the organisms operate
symbiotically. Theme is tied to voice is tied to setting is tied to
plot. Given this view, I find it somewhat difficult to discuss these
narrative components separately, because in my mind, they are all
inextricably linked! Every book strives for perfect continuity.
That said, I think when “theme” isn’t quite working, it’s often
because the author isn’t clear in her own mind about her authorial
intentions. Before good writing can happen, good thinking needs to
happen. An author needs to really know what it is, fundamentally, that
she wants to say. What is her message? What is her book about on an
emotional or philosophical level?
Sometimes the author “knows” what she’s trying to say before the
writing process begins. A whole book, chapter, or sentence can exist in
her mind before it appears on the page.
Other times (and I think this is more frequently the case), a writer
needs to work through her ideas on the page and the “knowing” – the
crystallization of her message – is a discovery that she arrives at.
It makes sense, then, that she would need to revisit the material
written prior to her discovery, and revise it with her underlying
intention in mind. This, I think, is how one edits for theme.
Natalie Lakosil: I’d say make it real; don’t force opinions or messages or be preachy.
If theme has been pointed out as a problem, well, ask where it’s
hitting readers over the head and fix it. I’d look at anywhere the
author may be imposing an opinion rather than a realistic situation. To
be honest, though, I can’t say I’ve ever rejected a book for a lack of a
theme.
Victoria Marini: This is tough; I feel like Theme originates within the struggle of the
characters. By that logic, I suppose creating a subtle, seamless theme
is really about developing the character through the conflicts;
experience, thought, behavior. Let those characters do their learning
and their work. If you’re worried that you’re bludgeoning us with
symbolism (hello C.S. Lewis!) my advice is to really stop thinking about
what message you want to convey and just let the character experience
the story and its problems.
I've seen a few agents talk about how writers should take their
time with revisions on a revise/resubmit invitation and not worry about
rushing to get it back to the agent. Any input on an ideal average time
frame? Is there such a thing as taking too long?
Laura Bradford: I actually don’t care how long an author takes to complete an R&R
for me (for the most part). If I know that I have suggested some
significant changes and the author fires the ms back to me in 3 days, I
would frankly be a bit wary that the changes were rushed and incomplete.
That said, it is totally possible that an author take so long to do a
revision that by the time they send it back the marketplace, or my own
list composition has changed so that no longer can I or should I take it
on. If I am looking for a YA sci fi right now because the market is hot
and an author takes a year to send back a revision the market may not
only be not-hot anymore but completely glutted. The opportunity was
missed. I don’t send R&Rs very often so if I do I am really serious
about getting the material back so I would be really bummed if I never
heard from the author again, especially if I spent a lot of time writing
really thorough notes. Taking a month or 2 or 3 to do a revision is
certainly fine. Best advice is just to follow up with the agent and just
let them know that you are working on the revision and give them an
estimate on when you’ll send it.
Josh Getzler: For most novels, there really isn’t such a thing as taking too long.
There are certainly exceptions that prove the rule—if you are seeing a
trend and trying to ride the wave of it, you can miss it by taking too
long. But that’s why agents really really try to discourage our clients
from trying to hit trends. If you see a bunch of Twilight knockoffs (or
Harry Potter or Lee Childs or Hunger Games or 50 Shades) and try to
write one, you will be disappointed—every publisher will already have a
long list of books coming down the pike trying to take advantage of the
trend. Look, if you are able to see one coming, and are fortunate enough
to have a great idea and can pull it off, terrific. But most of the
time, folks are disappointed.
For your standard novel, however, which isn’t particularly timely,
the goal is to get it right. However long that takes, take it. There are
a lot of agents, and we tend not to be going anywhere. And you really
only have one shot at submission to publishers, so it really needs to be
the best it can be. But don’t worry about an agent saying “oh, you took
too long getting back to me—I’m not interested any longer.”
Erin Harris: I’m sure every agent thinks differently about the ideal timeframe for
turning around a revision on a revise/resubmit, but for me, there is no
such thing as taking too long. Since I do think it’s possible for
writers to submit work prematurely, I always encourage writers to
resubmit when they feel ready.
Natalie Lakosil: I used to think there was no such thing as taking too long, but I’ve
recently come across several situations where this wasn’t true. First,
if an author takes over a year, the market may have changed and it may
be impossible to sell that kind of book at that time. Second, if an
author is taking forever and a day on a revision, and not even writing
anything else in the mean time, I may have doubts as to the author’s
ability to sustain a career in writing. That said, it is true, NEVER
rush a revision. But I’d say…longer than 4 months and I may start to
wonder (depending on the extent of the revisions, of course).
Victoria Marini: I don’t believe there’s such a thing as taking too long. The point is
that when we open a revision, we should feel like we’re reading a whole
new novel. If someone turns a revision back to me in a week, I know they
didn’t recreate the book sufficiently enough to get me or an editor to
reconsider it. As far as I’m concerned, the longer you take the better.
Kathleen Rushall: I wouldn’t worry about taking too long. It’s much more of a problem
to rush a revision than to take a leisurely time on it. If your revision
is rock solid and you’ve done a thoughtful, thorough job, an agent will
still be happy to see it even after months have passed. Whereas, if you
rush through your revision and submit it far too early you run two
risks: the first being that you didn’t do the revision justice and it’s
haphazard, and the second being that the agent may not think you’ve
taken the revision seriously. Turning in a revision too early can work
against you. We know writing takes time, and we know that thinking can
take time too. A good revision isn’t just about doing it; it’s about
formulating the changes in your head and getting them right when you do
write it all out. We understand that and want to see it happen!
Thank you to all of our agents and all of our readers who submitted questions.